The people that call people who call those of us who consider the possibility of conspiracy theory crazy, paranoid, or the tin foil hat crew are either controlling or limiting their own thinking out of fear. Jones is pretty sensationalist and I have wondered if he is just a tool but I think there is some truth in the things he has exposed. The problem with this is that anyone exposing things can be easily painted as non credible. OP keep questioning everything and learn to trust your gut. Ignore those who scoff at your observational skills.
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Op here. For years I thought he was something like being a crackpot. He still seems to me to be a bit immature. He is probably just wound-up tighter than a clock. Then I began watching some of his videos and reading actual government doccuments and I am beginning to think this guy is not as wacked-out as I have assumed. He has a 2 hr video called Police State 4/ Rise of FEMA that blows me away. It is not his opinion, it is video of the Military doing police operations in America with U.S. Government documentation backing it up. It is chilling.Jessie Ventura, another guy who seems out there to me, has a book out. I do not remember the name. It is something like 74 Documents the Government does not want you to see. The book has chilling documents from different agencies which seem to prove we are definately moving quickly toward a military type police state. I swear to God, if this stuff comes to pass I will figure out a way of leaving the country.
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cont... you will need to spend a bit of time there. The site has a lot of stuff. Some people will think he leans to the Right. But he blasts both political parties. I am left to center in my thinking.
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For years I thought he was a kook who took the X-FILES way too seriously. From there I watched his videos and I still wasn't sure until I did my own research on whatever government documents are legal to read. The stuff I'm finding is pretty scary and I think he may be right as well; that something is definitely weird and wrong going on.
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^^I agree. He may be a little eccentric, but his documentation is hard to argue when it is coming straight out of the government archives and Freedom of Information Act files.
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continued.. in the last sentence above I meant to say that We accused the Soviet Union of doing the exact same thing as we are doing ourselves around the world today.
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Heh, OP, if you believe Alex Jones is on the right track, you need an enema because your brain is constipated. Alex Jones is delusional and you are tagging right along behind him.
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^ And HAARP is just a research project. Riiiight, moroff.
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2 up. You can't possibly be so stupid as the think all the rich, especially the super-rich got where they are by making an honest living. How many politicians and other do you think they paid off along the way to the top? Now that they are there they whack everyone under them that they can in order to stay where they are.
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^ Now that you're starting to catch on, see how deep that rabbit hole goes by looking up his reporting on Boys Town. Even the government acknowledges conspiracy with legal definitions. It just doesn't acknowledge the ones carried out by govt and elite.
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well, then, there you go. It is my point exactly. 4 up thinks the people at the top got where they are by working hard and honest. Honesty, morality, and all those fuzzy things are for people at the bottom. The people at the top make laws that reenforce those "absolutes" for us then turn around and make immoral laws for themselves. Do you really think all the small farmers in America went out of business because they were unfit to run the farm? Or do you think corporate giants like Monsanto hired lobbyists and paid off poititicians with huge campaign money in exchange of writing laws that favor Monsanto? Then you have the idiot 4 up asking someone who the hell they think they are to think millionairs should have to give some of their share because they "worked hard to get it?
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^ you got it.
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Well now see, that defines the problem. I asked a simple question, but let me rephrase it so you might not miss the point this time. Actually, let me ask three questions. What exactly are you owed? By whom? And why? Then, while you're trying to find an answer to those simple questions, you can re-read what you posted and realize you went off on a tanget about government. What does government have to do with people owing you money? As for the bank bail outs, it might surprise you to know that we're on the same page with that crap! We will never pay down this debt!
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No, we will never pay down the debt because the wealthy have stolen from you and I, contrary to you believing that they have earned it. My tangent about government is such because the goverment is run by the corporations and rich people that you think earned it in an honest and responsible way. No one owes me anything except a fair, living wage, a level tax structure on a sliding scale and a small military, which would keep America from its international imperial pursuits. We accused the Soviet Union of doing the exact same thing as we accused them of doing around the world.
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So if you're just now starting to realize it, does it not bother you that the new Odramacare has "domestic military" embedded in it? It scares the shit out of me.
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1 up.^^ Elaborate and direct us to where there is proof of that.
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hey Obamacare idiot, how does it not bother you that 40% of the wealth in this country IS OWNED by the top 1%? That says nothing about how much those same billionaires own of your assets and debts. How stupid of an "owned" b**** are you that you listen to them talk about healthcare that is designed to help you. F U C K I N G FOOL!
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Thanks for saying more OP. You are on the right track and there are others of us out there too who see what it going on with this shit. So the thing to do now is stay as credible as you can and spread as much verifiable information as you can to others and wake them up. We may be able to collectively stop their plans if enough people realize wth is going on. So stay off the drugs and booze, don't rant just present facts, speak in articulate manner and people will listen!
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You have the nerve to call me fool when it's YOU that believes SOMEONE OWES YOU THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY???? What the hell do they owe you? What have you done to deserve their wealth? Sitting on your ass and holding your hand out does not constitute working for their wealth! Who the hell do you think you are? You call the wealthy names because they have THEIR OWN MONEY and won't share it with a lazy ass like you. Go look in the mirror you dumb ass and call me a fool. And for the record, I HAD health care, one of those CADILLAC plans, until Odumbass got hold of it!
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1 up. Oh, stop it. You are presenting your argument as if we are all on an even keel with everyone else racing to the top with only our wits to determine who get there first. People like you actually think you have any control over anything in this country. Your power begins when the polls opens on election day and end when they close. Then lobbyists, bought and paid for by all those millionairs and Billionairs who had their loybbyists write laws in their favor take over and control the operations of our government until the next election. If sitting on your ass with your hand out does not constitute wealth, how do you define wealth when banks take a TRILLION dollars of YOUR bail-out money and give it to European countries. Then not one of them go to jail. Now go give a teller a note stating it is a hold-up. Do not show a gun. Do you think you will go to jail contrary to what happened to the bank CEOs?
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